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When: 2012-10-10

Collection location: Krk Island, Croatia [Click for map]

Who: Tangich

No specimen available

Growing directly on horse manure.


Proposed Names

5% (5)
Recognized by sight
43% (6)
Recognized by sight
30% (2)
Recognized by sight: If it has a separable cuticle at the edge of lamella.
67% (3)
Recognized by sight: Growing on horse dung
Pileus hygrophanus, strongly viscid with separable pellice.
Gills adnate from moderately distant to rather crowded, dark gills with white edge.
Presence of well formed membranose anulus in the stipe.
Not bruising blue
Used references: Strophariacea s.l., Noordeloos, Fungi Europaei v.13, 2011.
-27% (1)
Recognized by sight: Semilanceata can grow directly from manure and sometimes it features annular zone. Also, many collections exhibit non-papillate pileus.
Absence of blue bruising points to semilanceata as well.

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Add Comment
By: Xavier Nadal (Xavier Nadal)
2021-03-10 06:17:28 CST (-0500)

Hi Dusan,
thank you for your comments, I appreciated.
I´m not a mycologist in the complete sense, I´m more a passionate for the Deconica, Psilocybe and Panaeolus genera. I´m a biologist with some past practical experience in Identification of that generas during my last years of university. A lot has changed from then, and now I´m learning again.
For me this is not kicking asses or who has the true. I was making the joke with you, as you make me before. For me this is sharing observations and opinions to compare and confront whith others to try to identify the observations as properly as it is possible, and learn from all this process.

By: Dušan (RenegadeMycologist)
2021-03-09 14:18:36 CST (-0500)

Good call. We are working with what we see.
I was too afraid to even suggest something different than Psilocybe :) So, I hit the books hard this afternoon and when I was pretty sure its Deconica, I see I got my ass kicked by you :) But you also kicked everybodies ass, if you are proved correct, since this is unidentified for years.

This observation often comes to my mind since it’s neighbouring country and I kinda know the finder of this, and he is not active in mycology as he was in the past.

Also Xavier,
I appreciate your work in documenting Panaeolus Deconica and Psilocybe. I can tell you are a great identifier. Keep those observation coming !

By: Xavier Nadal (Xavier Nadal)
2021-03-09 13:52:40 CST (-0500)

Hi Dusan,
First time that I kick your ass (;P)
That one made me think and the location and the non bluing make me look the Deconica genus. Completely agree with you that is only one speciment and no microscopy was done, but the macroscopic features make that ID as the more plausible.
I would like to know the others opinion although.

By: Dušan (RenegadeMycologist)
2021-03-09 12:37:48 CST (-0500)

This collection does not bruise blue, but only one specimen is shown.
That said, I was going to propose D.moellerii just now, but you beat me to it.
Until more specimens are collected, this is most appropriate ID.

New name proposed
By: Xavier Nadal (Xavier Nadal)
2021-03-09 11:26:17 CST (-0500)

Hi all,
the fact that dont bruise blue make me think that is not a Ps. fimetaria or Ps. liniformans, that normally show bruise blue reaction in nearly all speciments.
I look at Deconica moelleri, and all characteristics match, and is the only fimicolous Deconica that has a separable pelice, that was the characteristic that probably make the people decant for a Psilocybe genera. In mediterranean areas are more commun the Deconicas than the Psilocybe (more found in the mountain region).

By: Tangich
2018-09-19 02:00:46 CDT (-0400)

Yes, I would, gladly, but unfortunately I never found it after that. But now that it’s identified as something potentially more interesting, I’ll look for it again in a place I found it.

Cool collection
By: Excited delirium [EXD]▼ (Excited delirium [EXD]▼)
2018-05-22 03:19:39 CDT (-0400)

If you happen among this species again, can you photograph it and the habitat in greater detail?

Psilocybe sp.
By: Tangich
2013-07-28 03:26:02 CDT (-0400)

That was my first guess as well, but the thread suggesting it quickly degenerated into ridicule. The name proposed then by Alan Rockefeller was Stropharia dorsipora. Unfortunately no microscopy was ever done, and only a single specimen was found.