Observation 157917: Lacrymaria Pat.

When: 2014-01-14

Collection location: Braga, Portugal [Click for map]

Who: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)

No specimen available

Habitat: on herbs. Hairy cap, 2.5cm, grey brown mottled gills with white edge. Ring zone black. Spore print black.


ring zone, blackish spore print

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Let’s check all points then
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2014-01-15 12:17:03 CST (-0500)


“Cap 1.5–10cm across” – 2.5cm – ok
“convex with a broad umbo” – ok
“ochre-brown to tan at first” – ok
“covered in woolly fibrils” – ok
“veil remnants often adhering to the margin giving a fringed cottony appearance” – only evident on the smaller, but often is not always
“Stem 40–80´5–10mm” – 4cmX5mm – ok
“whitish at the apex becoming flushed with cap colour towards the base” – ok
“covered in small fibrous scales below the cottony fibrillose ring zone which is often made more prominent by the almost black spores which are trapped in it.” – less evident, but we can see the black of the spores over the scales (see second last photo)
“Gills crowded, mottled, dark purplish-brown with white edge, ‘weeping’ when moist – ok
“Habitat amongst tufted grass on woodland paths and roadsides2 – sort of

This is my checkup, you can contest.

By: Rocky Houghtby
2014-01-15 09:56:34 CST (-0500)

The pileus seems too campanulate,more rugose than floccose the stipe seems too thin and bulbous and the ring zone a little too in distinct. None of these things necessarily rule out L. lacrymabunda, but they do make a species level ID a little less confident. I think there are probably more species that do or should belong to this genus than science is aware of at the moment.

The gestalt almost seems more similar too something like Psathyrella rugocephala, but several morphological and ecological characteristics DO rule that species out.

By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2014-01-15 08:40:30 CST (-0500)

There are few species of Lacrymaria. I saw here some different species, but I do not see similarities to these. These are identical to other observations of Lacrymaria Lacrymabunda, and matches all the features of its description. So, with your large experience in the field, please tell what is the specie you are thinking it could be without being L. lacrymabunda.

Yes, no woodchips
By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2014-01-14 21:35:45 CST (-0500)

it was on a small meadow.

By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2014-01-14 19:17:29 CST (-0500)

What do you mean ‘on herbs’? Not wood chips.., but weeds?

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