Observation 160526: Guepinia Fr.

Start of the Fungi season here, after all the horrific bushfires and continuing drought. Was exceptionally lucky to spot this brilliantly coloured fungi, with one exception. As the creek that runs through the Gorge was extremely low, I had to wade out to this beautiful fungi growing on an old burnt log mid stream. To add to my excitement as I was quietly preparing to take some images, when a “platypus” trundled past me on the surface, oblivious of my presence. (I clicked off some shots, but camera settings were set for macro, so proof of the incident although detectable , not loadable, but a record of some value.)
The fungi was coloured from soft white in some small areas, to light orange, dark orange, and almost fire engine red on some tips. Getting wet was well worth it. The largest specimen was about 3cm in length and about 25mm in height. All growths were in excellent condition. The log which would normally be under water, was soaked, and would have provided the moisture for the fungi to survive the heat. The humidity was 95%. I have loaded images of all stages of growth.
The texture was rubbery and not easily damaged. I have not had time to scope this specimen as yet, but will add the micrographs sometime over the weekend.
Because of the poor light, fill flash was used and some images have been colour adjusted, but remain true to what was seen when fresh.
Another one of Australias’ nature surprises. I favour Craterellus from the description but micrographs obviously will help. (soon)
I have not seen a specimen keep its colour as well for the time I have had it at home. (48hrs) I will load the home collected specimen to show the colour still remaining. Really surprising.(for me at least.)


This image was taken from the bank of the creek. The creek is fresh water, crstal clear and cold.. Only this specimen was found in the area checked..
For Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
This is a photo of the specimen at home about 48hrs after the find. The colours were still plainly evident and the specimen did not appear to be drying out as quickly as any I have kept. This is a hand held record shot just to show the “colour”.
Both images with wet slide (no reagent) for starters. The first image magnification is less than the 2nd image. Not sure how revealing the micrographs are but had to start somewhere. I did notice that the view of the dissection was more black and white at the edges of the specimen. The section micr...
Both images with wet slide (no reagent) for starters. The first image magnification is less than the 2nd image. Not sure how revealing the micrographs are but had to start somewhere. I did notice that the view of the dissection was more black and white at the edges of the specimen. The section micr...

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I think
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2014-03-03 11:23:53 PST (-0800)

the best option in this case, is for someone to take a sample and make a DNA-sequence so it can be compared to other collections..

12 Micrographs (Melzers Reagent) added.

Thanks to all who assisted in providing me with their helpful advice. I have loaded 12 New Micrographs using Melzers Reagent. Some of the images show (to me), the possibility of Spores in the number range of 1-3. One image called “String” was taken from the side of the specimen which can be seen in the first image 1D72412 (low Magnification). The images showing this enlarged are 72414 & 72421.I have kept several dried specimens and if anyone would like a specimen (divided), they are most welcome. (first in best dressed),[i.e. if I have too many requests.]
Really appreciate all the comments and assistance. Makes it all worthwhile, although I thoroughly enjoy the experience..

Considering the size of the specimens
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2014-03-02 09:53:38 PST (-0800)

(3cm x 25mm) you’ve already done an exceptional job, Ian. Kudos.

By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-03-02 08:21:46 PST (-0800)

what you are attempting is not easy to do. Those jellies are slippery suckers, and hard to work with!

A fresh, double edged razor blade is a must, but even then…

Is there any one in OZ that could help you? Anyone at University running DNA?

Burn fungi are the upside to forest fires, altho it’s tragic on every other level.

Wish that I could be there with you, hunting those burns. Keep an eye out for other interesting things. They will be there, if there is water.

Sometimes, the best you can do is the photo documentation (you have that down!) and keeping a good specimen in dry conditions, with good notes.

It takes time to get your micro skills…heck, I am STILL working on my own!

You are our one man band for mycohunting in your area of OZ…keep up the good work and don’t be discouraged by what you can’t do…because you do so many other things, so well.

What a lovely creek to wade thru for a fungal capture. This is indeed still a beautiful world.

By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2014-03-02 05:05:44 PST (-0800)

I could need some tips myself with this kind of mushrooms :-)
But it’s important to get the prepared object as thin and flat as possible.

The camera here has a good resolution and the microscope creates blurry pictures at its higher magnifications. So, the result will be a lot better if even lower magnification is used on the microscope. To be able to measure spores and other details, a ruler in the eyepiece is desirable too.

By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2014-03-02 04:36:56 PST (-0800)

Maybe you or somebody else could help Ian with some tips to do a better micro? It’s such a pity to leave this like that.

By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2014-03-02 03:57:46 PST (-0800)

not so helpful. At least the microshots tell us that it’s a basidiomycete. If it’s a spore that can be seen down there in the first photo, it points towards a Heterobasidiomycete, “jelly fungus”. But it doesn’t get us further.
This kind of fungus is usually difficult and blurry in the microscope..

Micrographs added

Not sure how good they are?? or if helpful. Little bit lost here…….

Very helpful, thanks
By: Terri Clements/Donna Fulton (pinonbistro)
2014-03-01 14:26:04 PST (-0800)
I can’t be sure of course
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2014-03-01 14:21:34 PST (-0800)

but I find Guepinia helvelloides regularly (I have a location nearby), and have never seen it with these bright yellow/orange colours, and no one has yet proved that what has been found in Australia/New Zealand is the same species, so I’ll not jump to that conclusion only because they remind of each other. That’s a mistake that I and many others have done too often in the past…

By: Terri Clements/Donna Fulton (pinonbistro)
2014-03-01 13:29:30 PST (-0800)

I’m curious why you say it can’t be Guepinia helvelloides even though this obs reminds you of it. It does seem to fit the description in terms of texture, color, size and habitat (http://www.gbif.org/species/110586703/verbatim) and I see that it is on the Australian fungi website (https://www.anbg.gov.au/fungi/two-jelly-woodears.html)and New Zealand checklists (NZOR)so it occurs here.



what a treat!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-03-01 10:21:33 PST (-0800)

both your fungal capture and your platypus “float by.”

gotta love OZ. ;)

thanks Ian, yur the best!

look forward to your microscopy.

By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2014-03-01 09:31:47 PST (-0800)

I noticed that. What a confusion… where to find correct information?

By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2014-03-01 08:47:44 PST (-0800)

You are right according to Mycobank. You are wrong according to Index Fungorum.
Take your pick I guess.

By: Elsa (pinknailsgirl)
2014-03-01 08:09:48 PST (-0800)

isn’t Tremiscus the current name for Guepinia?

Variation as noted by Daniel
By: Terri Clements/Donna Fulton (pinonbistro)
2014-02-28 23:09:20 PST (-0800)
Just examined all of the photos under “huge” size:
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2014-02-28 22:31:43 PST (-0800)

1st photo: smooth
2nd photo: gills
3rd photo: ridges
4th photo: smooth
5th photo: gills/ridges/partial covering, like a veil?
6th photo: blunt, wavy ridges
7th photo: blunt ridges
8th photo: blunt ridges/gills
9th photo: some ridges
10th photo: ridges
11-12th photos: non-distinct
13th photo: out of focus

These are just my impressions.

Another oddity is what may be the hymenium covers only the upper 1/3 or so of the fungus. In the 5th photo, the gills have a slight gauzy covering, like a residual protective layer or like a partial veil? Only visible on the right-hand side of the photo.

Gills/No Gills.

Daniel, All of the fungi were in a tight group on the log. I thought they were all in different stages of maturity. Would this allow for the difference you noted?. Will definitely micrograph today sometime. Many thanks for your comments. I think at the moment Elsa’s suggested naming of “Tremiscus” seems to be the closest resemblance for the moment.kk

Two species here, Ian.
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2014-02-28 16:38:50 PST (-0800)

First photo shows no gills. Second shows gills.

Thanks Ian!
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2014-02-28 13:48:57 PST (-0800)

Great photo anyway. The soft focus adds a dream-like quality, right?

Don’t forget to check Guepinia images on Google:

Platypus Image

Loaded on request. Lens was set for macro and in manual focus. I think the image is identifiable. This is a rare occasion I experienced especially in the wild.

Great story
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2014-02-28 13:18:53 PST (-0800)

Ian. I think it would be alright to post a out-of-focus shot of the platypus. It will be interesting to see the results of your microscopy, nice find!

Incredible colours!
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2014-02-28 13:18:38 PST (-0800)

It does remind of Guepinia helvelloides. Maybe related, but can’t possibly be the same species. Let’s hope you find something useful in the microscope :-)

I’d keep
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2014-02-28 10:19:16 PST (-0800)

Aleuria in mind as well, Ian. Likes wood chips and logs.

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