Observation 16147: Alnicola Kühner

When: 2009-01-06

Collection location: Mill Valley, California, USA [Click for map]

Who: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)

Specimen available

2-3 inches tall.

The pileus of the mushrooms develops a dark bruising colour where damaged.
The “aborted pins” at the base of the stipe are noticeably blue.
An hour or so after collection, the cap margin of most of the mushrooms had turned blue.

The lamelle are a rather light, rusty brown (compared with most Psilocybe I’ve encountered).

The stipe is also unlike most Psilocybe, it looks like a flattened and bent tube (similar to some Tubaria or Gymnopus).
Rhizomorphic mycelium running up the base of the stipe, partial veil remnants around the middle and upper regions.

Spore print in process.

I’m very sorry for the poor quality photos, I will upload some much better images soon.


Copyright © 2009 Alan Rockefeller
photo of spores taken by Alan Rockefeller.
Copyright © 2009 Alan Rockefeller
photo of spores taken by Alan Rockefeller.

Proposed Names

-9% (5)
Recognized by sight
-41% (6)
Used references: Smith, A. H. 1975. A Field Guide to Western Mushrooms. Univ. of Michigan Press, Ann Arbor, Michigan. 280p.
-22% (5)
Recognized by sight
Based on microscopic features: Spores lack a germ pore, smooth
20% (5)
Recognized by sight
0% (2)
Recognized by sight

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
Eyes3 = Current consensus


Add Comment
By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2017-12-10 07:12:50 CST (-0500)

The collection is in the fucking van.

By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2016-04-19 12:08:49 CDT (-0400)

this obsie just goes to show ya that there is an exception to every rule, and in this case, more than one!

a bluing, fibrillose-veiled Galerina?!!! what is the world coming to!

Generally speaking tho, I do believe that most Galerinas would have a membranous veil. Please correct me if I am wrong, gang!

and we miss Erin dearly.
By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2016-03-31 00:33:38 CDT (-0400)
No update
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2016-03-31 00:00:57 CDT (-0400)

I asked for the collection many years ago and it is gone.

By: Katherine Collins (iluvmyshrooms)
2016-03-30 23:40:02 CDT (-0400)

I’m late to the show. Really late. I was just curious if there was ever any revelations on this one. I also wanted to point out that I always thought that Galerina species have a characteristic membranous partial veil/annulus rather than a cortina. I’m no expert, but I’d love to know if I am mistaken on that and whatever happened with this find.

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-06-21 19:49:22 CDT (-0400)

Andreas, I was not suggesting that you should not have posted the observation for G. steglichii. I see that you added numerous other photos, and it is good to have documentation in multiple locations!

Thank you Gerhard and Andreas for clearing that up, I will see about getting in contact with Karl Soop.

@cure cat: Oooops, so sorry ….
By: Andreas Gminder (mollisia)
2009-06-21 15:42:00 CDT (-0400)

indeed, I wrote Bevor instead of before …. The sentence should read “before describing it as a new species …” and I only wanted to say, that I would recommend it that the one person who wants to describe this blueing Galerina as new species should contact Karl Soop from Sweden about the unnamed blueing Galerina that he told me of. May be it is the same …

By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2009-06-21 15:26:39 CDT (-0400)

wanted to tell Cure Cat for it seems no one has answered: Bevor is German for before and not an author’s name :)

yes I did,
By: Andreas Gminder (mollisia)
2009-06-21 14:20:19 CDT (-0400)

but I’d liked to have all the picture together in one place, also the cystidia and spores in water and under the correct name.

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-06-21 12:20:42 CDT (-0400)

Thanks Doug, I will see if the spores are dextrinoid when I get a chance.

Andreas, I don’t know whether you noticed, but in the “Used references” under the Proposed name Galerina steglichii, there are links to 4 photos from your web site of the collection you just added an observation here for. :)

And thanks, I got the files!

Galerina steglichii
By: Andreas Gminder (mollisia)
2009-06-21 07:41:13 CDT (-0400)

I uploaded my collection of Galerina steglichii, which was confirmed by the author, Prof. Besl. http://mushroomobserver.org/22405?search_seq=541825
Looks quite a little bit different, especially by the thin and strongly striate cap. But in dehydrating the striation gets masekd and isn’t visible any more.

By: Andreas Gminder (mollisia)
2009-06-21 06:55:20 CDT (-0400)

I would need your mail adress, as I cannot send attachements via PM ….

Yes, please -
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2009-06-21 06:41:11 CDT (-0400)

Add me in on the Galerina article. I take any and all Galerina info that you have. I would like to see more about this species also.

The micro details are getting interesting, lots of pleurocystidia. That puts into a smaller area of Galerina, and knocks it out of Psilocybe (was still holding open the door for Psilocybe there). You should check if the spores are dextrinoid, as far as I’ve seen all Galerina with pleurocystidia have dextrinoid spores, rather strongly. All other related genera, except Gymnopilus, do not.

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-06-21 05:38:11 CDT (-0400)

I’d love to see the article! You can send it to me at Psathyrellaceae [at] hotmail [dot] com if that works for you.

Pleurocystidia and cheilocystidia are shown for this collection in the first link in my last comment below. I did not upload the image to the observation because the image does not belong to me.

I am not acquainted with Bevor, how might I get in contact with him?

I bet that the greenish veil is definitely due to the psilocin content! The fruiting bodies of inactive species of Galerina do not have green or blue colouration. As you can see, this collection did not have a green partial veil, though the cap margin on some were blue!

Thank you for the information!

Galerina steglichii
By: Andreas Gminder (mollisia)
2009-06-21 05:16:09 CDT (-0400)

Having found Galerina steglichii for the 2nd time in germany, I published a short article about this species in the journal “Mycologia Bavarica”. If someone is interested, I can send the article as WORD document + a jpg plate with microdrawings. I cannot upload it on my internet site at the moment, sorry.
I don’t think that the Galerina shown is G. steglichii, but I would also opt for a Galerina species. It would be important to see the cystidia. G. steglichii has been found three times up to now: Regensburg warm house (locus typicus) – Edinburgh Botanical Garden, warmhouse, R. Watling – Munic Botanical Garden, warmhouse, myself.
In a personal communication, Karl Soop from sweden told me about another blueing Galerina species he knows of, which isn’t identical with G. steglichii. Bevor describing this one as new species it should be recommended to contact him.
By the way, G. steglichii should have a greyish-greenish veil when young, acc. to the original description. May be this veil colour is due to discolouration by Psilocybin?

work up by Workman
By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-06-20 23:57:37 CDT (-0400)

Workman got around to doing a full work up on this collection. Here are his images and notes!

The spore size is within range for Galerina steglechii, though I have been unable to locate any other description of the microscopic features for that species, thus the identity remains inconclusive.

“Spores small with a finely roughened surface. Pleurocystidia common, resembling cheilocystidia but with a narrower apex. Occasional bright blue filaments (hyphae?) noted. Basidia difficult to see, only one observed with apparently 4 sterigmata.”

Full work up. Spores, Cystidia, etc.

spores- large

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-05-09 20:36:20 CDT (-0400)

A bluing mushroom he can finally get excited about! ;)

nice job tracking this one down!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-05-09 12:18:53 CDT (-0400)

I would suggest Doug as your final ID arbitrator, since he has spent the most time delving deeply into galerina. I understand he is currently in Europe, tho, so you might have to wait a bit to do that dessicata pass-off…

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-05-09 09:25:33 CDT (-0400)

G. steglichii is the only known species of bluing Galerina. It is a psilocybin containing mushroom originally described from Germany in 1993. Since then the species has been documented once more in Germany in 2005.

Germany is a pretty far way away, so perhaps it is a different bluing species of Galerina, or G. steglichii is a lot more wide spread then realized, but rare.

My collection looks similar to the photos linked to in the references I listed above, and having collected more from the patch a month or two after the initial find, the mature specimens looked a hell of a lot more like Galerina than Tubaria. Furthermore, the fact that there is at least one species of Galerina that blues, and thus far no known bluing Tubaria, also supports the notion of this mushroom being a Galerina.

Here are some spores from the 2005 collection, to compare with the pictures of the spores Alan shot.


Spores: 8.5-10 × 5.5-8 microns *measurements based on the 1993 description

So who with a ’scope wants to get some measurements?!

Dimi? Doug?? Alan, you have one or two, you still interested?
I’ll bring some to the BAMS thingy on Wednesday.

A bluing Tubaria…
By: Edward Barge (landsnorkler)
2009-01-15 11:08:56 CST (-0500)

That’s a new one on me. It’ll be interesting to see if these contain Psilocybin/Psilocin.

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-01-14 18:49:13 CST (-0500)


Psilocybe-Tubaria missing link
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-01-14 18:45:29 CST (-0500)

Either that or a hybrid, Muuhahaha!

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-01-14 18:19:41 CST (-0500)

I was only able to get a very faint spore deposit from the largest mushroom. Spores were tan or rusty brown.

I gave the light print to Alan.
Alan, if some of the print remains and you wouldn’t mind posting a photo of it or some microscopy, that would be cool.
If I recall correctly, spores were smooth, limoniform or fusiform, with a hilar appendage and no germ pore.

A clone and a multi-spore agar culture are under way. We’ll see how that goes. Often bluing is more evident in culture.

By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-01-14 12:31:34 CST (-0500)

A bluing Tubaria? I’d really like to see spore print for these guys.

By: Dave W (Dave W)
2009-01-12 09:37:56 CST (-0500)

Photo #34141 shows the shrooms in trays. The third tray from the left contains a specimen that appears to show the last stages of a cortina. I don’t know very much about the Psilocybe genus, so I can’t say if this would be expected in this genus. Last year (on another discussion board) somebody posted bluing specimens collected somewhere in the western US that turned out to be an Inocybe species. I forget the species name.

I don’t know what they are CureCat.
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-01-11 21:30:39 CST (-0500)

The bluing looks a-typical. The frosted stem above the the annular zone is a bit odd as well.

You have not said where these mushrooms were growing yet. In wood chips with tall grass maybe?

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-01-10 19:46:03 CST (-0500)

" Summary: non blueing clade

So much the worse for the non bluing clade Haha!"

Dan, I don’t understand what you mean. These are definitely not in the non-bluing clade of Psilocybe.

Can you please clarify?

non blueing clade
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-01-09 20:48:32 CST (-0500)

So much the worse for the non bluing clade Haha!

Those are strange
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-01-09 20:46:20 CST (-0500)

I was about ready to say I doubted Psilocybe until I saw the light blue pins. What were the growing conditions? Very wet conditions can cause stems of psilocybes to swell up like that. Low light conditions can cause stems to elongate. Those look swollen and elongated.

It might be a rare species, or it might just be a rare phenotype of a common species. Spores might help to sort it out.

Mythicomyces corneipes
By: Michael W (Michael Wallace)
2009-01-09 20:40:49 CST (-0500)

Very interesting, so this mushroom was Psilocybe corneipes and I presume was in the non blueing clade, Curecats specimens do seem to stain blue!
Curecat, have you compared these with observation 4937?

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2009-01-09 17:12:56 CST (-0500)

Oh wow, this is so weird… The last mushroom I was looking at photos of not 5 minutes ago was Mythicomyces corneipes! For a totally unrelated reason too. How strange…

However, having just looked at photos, I don’t think these are them.




Also, the bluing in my collection is quite noticeable. It may be less obvious in the images. I did not read about any bluing in the description for M. corneipes.

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