Fruiting beneath Ponderosa pine and Douglas fir.

Gray, tan fading to white at base- frilled cap/cup margin(darker at extended tips). Smokey appearance, altho somewhat pinkish purple hued with mature specimens in spore bearing center of cups(made deciphering from old, small P. violacea difficult initially in the field).

Elevation: 2700ft.

Temp: mid 70’s.

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Agree that this is Helvella leucomelaena
By: Joseph D. Cohen (Joe Cohen)
2019-06-04 20:05:53 PDT (-0700)

Also, if it were Neournula, it would be N. normanensis See Notes on Taxonomy at N. normanensis

By: Nicolas VAN VOOREN (NicoV)
2015-06-11 05:36:48 PDT (-0700)

Your specimens show a ribbed stem, very short, but this is rather common in H. leucomelaena or H. confusa. The ancient mycologist classified these species in the genus Acetabula, a name coming from the Latin word for “goblet”.
Note also that H. leucomelaena is a mycorrhizal fungus associated with Pinus spp. The other similar species, H. confusa, is found in Europe under Picea abies, but I don’t know if it has been collected in North America.
About the ecology of Neournula pouchetii, you can read comments on MO here:

By: Drew Henderson (Hendre17)
2015-06-10 15:13:56 PDT (-0700)

No microscopy done for this collection. The macro, frilled margin, NO STEM as with Helvella(at least no epogeously visible. These we young, fragile and did slightly exhibit the basal striation, but definitely did not have any remote stems on collection.

I will continue adding digital microscopy( as I have and continue to do with species needing more than macro characteristics) to all observations.

I appreciate your notes and willingness to add knowledge and awareness to MO.

Can’t wait to see a post from you personally!



Microscopic characters?
By: Nicolas VAN VOOREN (NicoV)
2015-06-10 09:24:12 PDT (-0700)

Your collection looks more like a Helvella species (e.g. H. confusa)… Did you check the microscopic characters?