Observation 20865: Agaricales sensu lato

When: 2009-05-07

Collection location: Lake Gunn, Fiordland National Park, New Zealand [Click for map]

Who: Noah Siegel (Noah)

No specimen available

last one for today…

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Clive -
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2009-06-03 11:41:28 PDT (-0700)

You can leave if you want to, but I’ll never ask you to. This is a site for everyone, and furthermore I don’t believe in drama about mushrooms.

My comment was in response to the fact that I have seen this observation getting bumped back and forth between Laccaria and Fungi every other time I log on, despite the fact we don’t have any new information about THIS COLLECTION.

It’s not that I have “chosen not to believe you” regarding your identification. Rather, I’m making an informed judgement based on my own experience, knowledge, and intuition (not to mention Matheny’s thoughts) on this.

For example, based on my experience, the combination of granular (not radially fibrillose or recurved-scaly), translucent-striate caps, widely-set gills, and clustered growth habit counts against Inocybe.

By the way, I have no immediate reason to doubt the ID on this newer observation, which looks different: http://mushroomobserver.org/21603?search_seq=503934

C’mon guys.
By: Clive Shirley (myxo)
2009-06-03 00:12:52 PDT (-0700)

I am not sure what you are on about. I clearly stated when Noah posted this observation that it is more then likely a Inocybe species. OK he chose not to believe me but rather this Brandon Matheny not much I could do about this!.

This past weekend I spent down south in one of our beech forest and was fortunately enough to find another collection. This time been armed with both my microscope and the keys/descriptions I was not only able to confirm it was a Inocybe but also which species.

On returning home I updated my original suggestion from Inocybe to Inocybe calamistratoides and marked the other two suggestions down. As this site allows! if this group feels my opinions are not welcome then I am happy to leave just let me know.

C’mon guys.
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2009-06-02 22:41:03 PDT (-0700)

Let’s stop voting this back and forth between Fungi and Laccaria.
As Noah said – white spored, but that’s about it.

Fungi sp
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2009-05-12 22:19:03 PDT (-0700)

I showed this photo to Kentaro Hosaka (who works on Laccaria)and Brandon Matheny (who’s specialty is Inocybe)both didn’t know what it was. It is probably white spored but that’s about as far as we can get.

Try Inocybe sp.
By: Clive Shirley (myxo)
2009-05-07 23:12:27 PDT (-0700)

I have a similar photo on my website taken quit a few years ago
http://hiddenforest.co.nz/... I see I have named it Inocybe sp.

Its doubtful its a Laccaria as these are ever flesh coloured (pink) or purple/tan.

By: Shane Marsh (Mushane)
2009-05-07 14:40:10 PDT (-0700)

yeah much like a Laccaria, I believe NZ has quite a few that are not found here in the U.S., I cant seem to locate many Laccaria with these characteristics, let alone specific information on Laccaria from NZ.

heres a good link on Laccaria of north america:

not that it helps you but someone may find it useful

By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2009-05-07 13:23:49 PDT (-0700)

is not a bad idea – would have been easy to decide that with some spores under the microscope..

First guess would be Gymnopus
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2009-05-07 09:41:12 PDT (-0700)

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