Observation 22551: Amanita Pers.

When: 2009-06-25

Collection location: Strouds Run State Park, Athens, Ohio, USA [Click for map]

Who: Dan Molter (shroomydan)

Specimen available

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76% (2)
Recognized by sight
-10% (3)
Recognized by sight: brown streaked fibrous cap, swollen cracked basal bulb. supposedly the most common amanita species East of the Rockies!
63% (3)
Used references: As per Mycowalt’s suggestion.

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sorry to crush your fantasy Debbie
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-06-27 18:56:24 CDT (-0400)

It does look huge in that third shot doesn’t it :)

Common in Ohio
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2009-06-27 17:34:55 CDT (-0400)

This, according to Yves Lamoreux in Quebec, is Amanita lignophila. Rod does not concur. It fruits regularly in Ohio under Quercus.

gee Dan I had projected that amanita to have heroic proportions…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-06-27 11:19:20 CDT (-0400)

your last photo has crushed my fantasy. size does matter. not to mention a membranous vs naked volva/bulb…

yes small
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-06-27 08:10:51 CDT (-0400)

In the last photo you can see the mushroom is only about 2 inches long. Probably one of the look-a-likes.

fair enough. good eye, Dan.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-06-26 20:45:21 CDT (-0400)
Possibly not brunnescens…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2009-06-26 19:27:43 CDT (-0400)

There are two small, brunnescens-like taxa in the east. This specimens seems to have been small. Am I write about that Dan? It could be A. solaniolens. But I think there is another undescribed species which confuses the picture (at least for me). At least we can say this is NOT the one with a pale yellow partial veil. :-)

The bulb on brunnescens is USUALLY much more abrupt.


no cap warts
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-06-26 16:42:32 CDT (-0400)

It looks like the universal veil remained intact as this one sprung up from the egg.

“cleft foot amanita”
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-06-26 12:49:08 CDT (-0400)

Everything except the bulb is in line with A. brunnescens, but instead of having a naked cleft foot, this one’s bulb is covered in a well formed balloon-like volva. You are probably right, but I wonder…

there is a lot of individual variation within species…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-06-26 11:04:51 CDT (-0400)

exact size of bulb not as important as the combination of features.

but perhaps Rod will weigh in…

I still think that your pale mushroom is what we used to call brunnescens var. pallida, due to the innate radial striations on the cap and its cracked marginate bulb.

balloon volva
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-06-26 10:11:01 CDT (-0400)

The bulb on this mushroom looks way different than the one in 22553. Both were collected in the same area on the same day. Both have been identified as Amanita brunnescens. The radically different bulb structures suggests different species to me.