When: 2015-12-16

Collection location: Larksville, Pennsylvania, USA [Click for map]

Who: Phil Yeager (gunchky)

No specimen available

Notes:
Terrestrial in moss near Virginia Pine. Cap and stipe slippery with waxy gills.

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Proposed Names

-14% (2)
Used references: Waxcap…… B.R.S.B.
42% (4)
Recognized by sight: Yellow gills and stipe. Late occurrence under 2-needle pine.
Used references: BRSB

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Thanks Walt.
By: Phil Yeager (gunchky)
2015-12-23 14:18:58 EST (-0500)
Other conifers
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2015-12-21 16:52:56 EST (-0500)

could be interpreted as including red pine. But with the spruce association, I would look to similar conifers such as firs. Again Not just the habitat, but where you found the mushroom is important. H. hypothejus is much more wide spread.

Updated vote
By: Phil Yeager (gunchky)
2015-12-21 15:19:10 EST (-0500)

due to spores in the range of 8-10 × 4-6 um.
Question, if, H. discoides is found under Spruce and other conifers, wouldn’t this infer that two needle pines be part of its habitat? Thank-You.

No disrespect taken
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2015-12-19 20:35:17 EST (-0500)

The key here as Dave pointed out is two needle pine association and late season fruiting.

H. discoideus is more Northern and uncommon in North America.

Since Walt
By: Phil Yeager (gunchky)
2015-12-19 19:01:24 EST (-0500)

weighed in I’ve updated your proposal to promising until I do some micro work. No disrespect Walt.

Have to find time
By: Phil Yeager (gunchky)
2015-12-19 15:58:37 EST (-0500)

Right now i’m putting an elliptical exercise machine together for my wife. Frustrating when bolts are put together so tightly that one needs a vice to loosen them for further installation.

I agree about the warm weather.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2015-12-19 11:05:26 EST (-0500)

Look at this Suillus I just found. Supposedly a summer/fall mushroom sometimes found in spring. obs 225479 .

I also agree about the description of the caps colors pointing more toward discoideus. So perhaps my “promising” alternative proposal is made with undue confidence. H. hypothejus is a species I just recently learned… with help from Eric and Walt here on MO obs 222860 . That’d be great if you could get a read on spore size; it’d provide considerable closure here.

Look at
By: Phil Yeager (gunchky)
2015-12-18 17:11:28 EST (-0500)

ob.s 225644, and pages 61 and 67. When I find time I will observe and measure the spores for this proposal. The two species are similar except for cap color and spore size. Also remember our continuing warm weather.

I think in this case…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2015-12-18 16:24:05 EST (-0500)

the yellow gills, yellow stipe, and late occurrence are better indicators than cap color.

Cap colors
By: Phil Yeager (gunchky)
2015-12-18 12:15:29 EST (-0500)

on this species do not match the description for H. hypothejus, which have much darker coloration, but they do for H. discoides. I used Methuen Handbook of Color for my proposal. Also due to the unseasonably warm temperatures that we are experiencing many species not normally present at this time are making an appearance, and will in all probability continue to do so until our climate becomes colder.

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