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When: 2016-05-23

Collection location: Umstead State Park, Raleigh, North Carolina, USA [Click for map]

Who: Geoff Balme (geoff balme)

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Button stage or at least younger caps preferred here!
By: Geoff Balme (geoff balme)
2016-05-28 07:58:14 CDT (-0400)

Yes, and the stems are usually discarded in my neck of the woods as too tough. The sauteed caps however are terrific.
Nice info here !

Armillaria solidipes
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2016-05-28 00:24:23 CDT (-0400)

is a good edible in the button stage, No boiling, just a thorough fry in the pan.

By: I. G. Safonov (IGSafonov)
2016-05-28 00:12:39 CDT (-0400)

…for the culinary details, Dave. Beef Stroganoff? I am beginning to salivate here. By the way, a bit of slime is good. :-) Perhaps I should try these directly from the “source”, rather than making a mess myself on my first try. When is dinner? September? :-)

Long slow sauteing…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2016-05-27 23:51:47 CDT (-0400)

cooks away the slime, and then they are a great side with steak. Or including in a dish like Beef Stroganoff or Chicken Cacciatore masks it. Salt well. I also put these into an Asian style Chicken/Broccoli/garlic.

Honeys advanced in age, like the ones seen in this observation… I don’t collect for the table.

Have no fear, Dave
By: I. G. Safonov (IGSafonov)
2016-05-27 23:30:32 CDT (-0400)

The marshal (one “l”) reference was meant to be a compliment. :~)
I should try your recipe. My “honeys” always came from a jar bought from the Russian supermarket “NetCost Market” in NE Philly.

There are many ways to prepare these…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2016-05-27 23:21:17 CDT (-0400)

for the table. But generally, par-boiling followed by a slow saute/stew is best. Buttons are preferred.

Igor, I’m almost afraid to ask about the WWII Russian Marshall.

“Popinkies”, “podpinkies”, “puhpinkies”… all of Polish extraction.

By: I. G. Safonov (IGSafonov)
2016-05-27 23:10:43 CDT (-0400)

That’s probably because you don’t know how to cook. These mushrooms are best pickled/marinated!

A rose by any other name…
By: Rocky Houghtby
2016-05-27 23:09:01 CDT (-0400)

Still tastes bad :(

By: I. G. Safonov (IGSafonov)
2016-05-27 23:07:24 CDT (-0400)

“Podpinki is a commonly used name among Eastern European immigrants” — let’s not generalize here, please. :~)
“Podpinki” (pl.) is Polish I believe, and that implies Dave’s extraction (though a famous WWII era Marshal of the USSR of the same surname — and looking a bit like Dave! — was a Ruski). “Pidpenky” (pl.) is Ukranian, and “opyata” (pl.) is Russian.

Thanks Geoff and Walt.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2016-05-27 22:38:23 CDT (-0400)

I have never really understood the “bald cap” criterion for mellea. I have collected buttons of the yellow-capped variety that had lots of hairs on the cap, like obs 76028.

Seems that early fruiting favors mellea. The “old-timers” around here would call the browner ones with thicker stipe bases “late ones”.

Cap surface
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2016-05-27 13:08:46 CDT (-0400)

Tom Volk says it can not be relied on. See obs. 76028

Armillaria mellea
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2016-05-27 13:03:07 CDT (-0400)

does fruit in the late spring. My earliest record was in June. The yellowish bald cap (except for the scaly disc) and the early fruiting indicate A. mellea.
Podpinki is a commonly used name among Eastern European immigrants often referring to Armillaria ostoyae (A. solidipes). Roughly translated it means on and of the stump. It is sometimes shortened to pinki.

Hey Dave!
By: Geoff Balme (geoff balme)
2016-05-27 07:20:45 CDT (-0400)

Roody says they do occasionally appear in the spring. I was plenty surprised by their appearance as well. But these days NC has been full of surprises. This May has been a banner season already.

I’ve never heard them called “popinkies” we always called them “yellow oaks”.

Up here in PA…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2016-05-27 00:31:30 CDT (-0400)

we never see Armillaria until late July at the earliest.

Geoff, (or Walt) how did you arrive at the mellea species ID? “Popinkies” were the first type of edible mushroom that I collected many years ago. But I still feel kinda challenged by the different species within this group.