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for an excellent example
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2017-02-05 12:31:37 PST (-0800)

of what a true caesar’s amanita looks like as the cap is just breaking open, go to Mike Wood’s shot from the Yosemite Fungal Survey here:

http://mushroomobserver.org/49229?q=264l

altho his expanding coccora egg is older than this one, the membranous and persistent PV is clearly still attached to the gills. there is never a PV in calyptratoides. It is the UV that covers those gills. Be patient.
All will be revealed, in good time.

yeah, I’m with you on that, Jacob.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2017-02-05 09:32:56 PST (-0800)

novinipta sometimes tastes really good and sometimes doesn’t. velosas are probably the best tasting amanita in NA! I share a lot, but not my velosa patches! :)

but who knows what this one might taste like or what texture it might have?
If you could bear it, please take one for the team!

I almost ate one back when I just thought that it was a oddly colored velosa, but cooler heads (David’s) prevailed.

as to Britt’s apparent “SLAM DUNK!!!” comment below: we see what we want to see. What I see are gill impressions upon a stipe and a bit of UV material circling the stem where the cap broke off from its former veil free placement against the stipe, similar to what we see in velosas.

so no, I am not convinced. usually the seeds of new knowledge already are sown in the past, in species that just don’t “fit neatly,” hence the continuing terminology in calyptratoides descriptions of a “dissolving” annulus.

perhaps it disappears so quickly because it was never really there at all?

the adventure and mystery continues, for those of us with the courage to question.

I haven’t tried them
By: Jacob Kalichman (Pulk)
2017-02-04 10:26:28 PST (-0800)

I don’t really like eating any mushrooms (with a couple exceptions), so I’m not a useful judge. I tried velosa and novinupta from here and they were both fine.

Partial veil is clearly shown in top photo…
By: Britt Bunyard (Fungi magazine) (bbunyard)
2017-02-04 09:51:13 PST (-0800)

…putting to rest any doubts that anyone had on the subject. Nice!

speak of the devil! :)
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2017-02-04 08:14:06 PST (-0800)

have you ever tried these, Jacob? They are certainly abundant enough in your neck of the woods to sacrifice a few examples to the fry pan.

I would imagine they are not so great, and even more perishable than the rest of their fragile family! But maybe you could report back here on taste and texture?

I for one would love to hear all about it.

Looks like you found some nice youngsters.