When: 2017-04-21

Collection location: Bulverde, Texas, USA [Click for map]

29.7456°N 98.3822°W 319m [Click for map]

Who: Jared McRae (redeye311)

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Back yard find.


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Thanks, Jacob.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2017-10-16 03:54:08 PDT (-0700)

This species (tarda/sordida or something very similar) sometimes comes up in my back yard. I’ll save some if I see it again.

Bigelow (1982) says they’re synonymous; L. sordida has the older basionym
By: Jacob Kalichman (Pulk)
2017-10-16 00:12:43 PDT (-0700)

If NA ones are actually a different species, then tarda is good.

Index Fungorum…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2017-10-15 16:03:57 PDT (-0700)

does not distinguish between valid Euro and valid NA species names. I have noticed what I think may be some examples of confusion as per this lack of differentiation.

Not difficult to believe that a saprobe like a Lepista species may be transcontinental. Just wondering what evidence may exist to support the tarda=sordida hypothesis.

But, since IF lists both taxa as valid, my guess would be that tarda is the name that applies to the NA taxon… assuming there is only one.

My first thoughts on this..
By: Jared McRae (redeye311)
2017-10-15 13:19:48 PDT (-0700)

when I found it was Lepista sordida var. lilacina which has alot of similarities but isn’t really a valid name. I just noticed recently that the name Lepista tarda was depricated. I don’t exactly know the details but I like the name. My simple opinion. You could be correct. Index fungorum lists ‘tarda’ and ‘sordida’ as seperate taxon.

Jared, do you know the reason…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2017-10-15 13:04:10 PDT (-0700)

why sordida has been judged as the currently acceptable NA name for this? I have been under the impression that sordida is a European name with tarda the name applied to a NA look alike. Since Singer was a European mycologist, my guess is someone has recently demonstrated matching DNA sequences for Euro an NA material.

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