When: 2009-11-14

Collection location: Fort Bragg, Mendocino Co., California, USA [Click for map]

Who: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)

No specimen available


Proposed Names

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Recognized by sight: rapidly reddens everywhere except on the gills. confirmed by Else at BAMS meeting.

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as A side note…
By: Joshua Birkebak (Shua)
2009-11-20 10:32:20 PST (-0800)

most all of these red bruising things are in Leucoagaricus sect. pioseli. If it bruises red it is probably a Leucoagaricus!

By: Joshua Birkebak (Shua)
2009-11-20 10:30:17 PST (-0800)

I do not believe the combination has been published… with all the complications involved with the leucoagaricus/Leucocoprinus clade Else and others have been very reluctant to make new combinations! If the clade really is one big mess then the name Leucocoprinus is older and has priority but frankly Leucoagaricus would be a much better name… One day it will all get sorted out and new combinations will be made.

perfectly reasonable questions Doug…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-11-20 08:04:33 PST (-0800)

but I defer to Else as our ultimate Lepiota authority. Check out the BAMS MoM page for her treatment of shaggy parasols and other related mushrooms here, where she includes the former Lepiota flammeatincta under the Leucoagaricus umbrella: http://www.bayareamushrooms.org/...

Shockingly, Index Fungorum is NOT always the best source for the most current names. Who CAN we trust in this uncertain taxonomic world??! My money is on the scientists who are doing the actual cutting edge research. Truth in taxonomy seems to be an ever shifting landscape, in which we try to gracefully maintain our balance.

Well, I can’t find any mention of this…
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2009-11-20 04:36:35 PST (-0800)

Looking at Google, Index Fungorum, and other observation sites, I don’t see any mention of Leucoagaricus flammeatincta, this obs. here seems to be the only ref. to this name anywhere? So, if this is Leucoagaricus, where is the ref. for this? Until I see the ref. I’m going to stick with Lepiota for now.

By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2009-11-19 22:51:19 PST (-0800)

Really, so L. flammeatincta is now Leucoagaricus? Someone should fix up the name there. Did Debbie get the spelling right on this? And who is the author of the name? The synonym should get put in here.

Oh its a Leucoagaricus alright!
By: Joshua Birkebak (Shua)
2009-11-19 22:42:31 PST (-0800)


By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2009-11-19 22:34:53 PST (-0800)

I don’t think this one is Leucoagaricus, this is still a Lepiota. Did Else say this was Leucoagaricus?