Observation 32058: Psathyrella (Fr.) Quél.

When: 2010-01-16

Collection location: Tulare Co., California, USA [Click for map]

Who: johnnyblaze2316 (johnnyblaze2316)

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im wondering if this is just a psathyrella or something else, spore print purple. found growing in decomposing reed grass and cattail mulch in an old riverbed. thank you MO for your help.

[admin – Sat Aug 14 01:59:15 +0000 2010]: Changed location name from ‘central california (inland)’ to ‘Central Interior California, USA

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By: johnnyblaze2316 (johnnyblaze2316)
2010-01-17 20:19:48 CST (-0500)

thank you

non-bluing psilocybes
By: Shane Marsh (Mushane)
2010-01-17 15:02:37 CST (-0500)

were moved to deconica http://www.indexfungorum.org/...

By: johnnyblaze2316 (johnnyblaze2316)
2010-01-17 14:03:32 CST (-0500)

i dont really know anything about deconica, im trying to research it online and im getting that it is/was/were/ a snyonym for psilocybe, can someone tell me about deconica, thank you.

when i found it i examined it and quickly dismissed it as a psathyrella, then after walking back to the car i said…. damn, you know what,, somethings not right about the gills, they looked familiar, and not in the psathyrella way ;) so i went back and got it for identification.

By: johnnyblaze2316 (johnnyblaze2316)
2010-01-17 12:02:23 CST (-0500)

your right the stems were a day old and left outside so they were still kind of fresh. im not as good as you but i just dont think they are psathyrella, the stems were tough when fresh as well, if that helps you any. god damn i need a scope. but check it out i will be going back when there is a break in rain to collect more, what do you need me to observe/collect when there? i will also be taking a camera with me this time for habitat shots. and i think the roots and debri you see is just decomposing material, i will take a better look though. thank you CC

Good point
By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2010-01-17 02:40:56 CST (-0500)

You are right Douglas, Hypholoma should not be hygrophanous. Damn. This thing is throwing me for a loop.

I am going to reconsider Psathyrella, because I think it had been about 24 hrs or more between the time that these were collected and when the photos of the stems bending was taken… When I looked closer, it is apparent that the mushrooms are wrinkled and starting to dry out, and even Psathyrella will bend when they start to dry out. Some Psathyrella are less brittle, as well… Though not much. Seeing as the genus is a polyphyletic dumping ground, you will end up with a lot of morphological variation between clades.

Doesn’t look like Deconica to me.

By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2010-01-17 01:44:04 CST (-0500)

Are Hypholoma really hygrophanous like these? Do think it could possibly be a Deconica?

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2010-01-17 00:18:38 CST (-0500)

I think I see a radicating stipe… Or is that a plant root? I wonder if there were sclerotia.

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2010-01-16 23:54:20 CST (-0500)

I change my mind. Psathyrella would not bend like that. Maybe Hypholoma.

By: johnnyblaze2316 (johnnyblaze2316)
2010-01-16 22:39:07 CST (-0500)

will do right now

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2010-01-16 22:28:14 CST (-0500)

I was afraid you might say that. Can you also post a photo of the bent or snapped stipe? Try bending it between your fingers and take a photo.

the stipe
By: johnnyblaze2316 (johnnyblaze2316)
2010-01-16 22:23:55 CST (-0500)

no actually CC it was not fragile at all. im posting pics of the print after this, its the best i can do indoors under floros and flash. thanks CC

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2010-01-16 20:20:00 CST (-0500)

I think it is just a Psathyrella.

The shiny, fibrous looking stipe (which is probably rather brittle, correct?), and the hygrophanous, brown/yellow-tan pileus give it away. There is something about the texture of the pileus in the photos that also makes me think Psathyrella, but I can’t really describe it.

The lamelle are very purple for a Psathyrella though! Can you post a photo of the spore print?

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