When: 2010-02-22

Collection location: Strouds Run State Park, Athens, Ohio, USA [Click for map]

Who: Dan Molter (shroomydan)

No specimen available

These tiny orange cups were growing from the bark of a dead stick. The largest is about 3mm across. The spores are very tiny and brown. I expected white spores from these.

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Recognized by sight: At least it seems to have Orbilia-paraphyses..
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Used references: Kinda like the tiny orange cups seen here:
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lichen spores
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2010-03-01 11:51:09 CST (-0500)

I just noticed that the brown spores are clustered around green spots in the photos. This would be consistent with the lichen as the source of the spores. I’ll put a lichen from the same stick under the scope tonight. I bet we see the same spores. Good call Dave!

Brainstorming a few possible
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2010-03-01 10:42:09 CST (-0500)

explanations for the spores that seem to not fit… First, is that a lichen growing nearby the cups? Is it possible that the spores could have come from the lichen? Second, is it possible that the cups may be host to some difficult to detect parasitic fungus?

Brown cell-chains
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-03-01 09:24:29 CST (-0500)

are not asci, but some kind of algae, maybe?
These cups are ascomycetes, and the brown spores do not belong there either, because they come from a basidiomycete. You can easily ignore them too.

brown spores
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2010-03-01 08:13:47 CST (-0500)

I also thought the spores looked like something from a dark spored agaric, but I think this is unlikely for several reasons. The orange cups were collected in the winter when very few fungi of any kind were out. I do not recall seeing any agarics at all that day. The stick these were growing from certainly did not host any.

I cleaned my tools before making the mount and I used new glass. There were a few dry Mycenas on the table, but no psathyrellas or psilocybes or anything else with dark spores. I couldn’t believe it when I saw the spores, so I made a mount from another fruit body, same both times.

If the brown spores are contaminates, then the cups must have picked them up in the field. This seems very unlikely given that I haven’t seen a dark spored agaric at Strouds Run since November.

I interpreted the septate worm thingies as asci. Maybe not?

By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2010-03-01 03:40:50 CST (-0500)

Those spores look like Psathyrella spores. They might be contaminates from a Psathyrella that was near by, or had been right above the cup in the past? Or were they dried near a Psathyrella? Or did you handle a Psathyrella with the forceps previous to handling these in making the mount? I’ve done all those things myself…

Did you actually see an asci? These might be spores from this guy, but you should confirm by looking at an asci and seeing what the spores look like as they mature. If there are no asci, then these guys are still too young, and the spores are probably uncertain.

The dark multiple septate things I’ve always regarded as another creature growing on the mushroom body. Like a mold, or such. I see those fairly often, and usually just try to ignore them. Does anyone else have a better explanation for the darker muli-septate incursions?

Good stuff Dan. That was too good to make up.
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2010-02-28 12:30:49 CST (-0500)

But maybe you need to get out more… LOL Anyone have an ID for this cold weather Asco?

By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2010-02-28 12:21:00 CST (-0500)

This little guy looks like a character used in a Philosophy of language experiment.

In the experiment two figures are drawn, one with soft rounded lobes like the mushroom here, and another with sharp pointed appendages like a star. Respondents are shown both figures and are told that one is named “Mooloo” and one is named “KiKi”. They are then asked to name the figures. Four out of five respondents identify the smooth figure as Mooloo and the sharp one as Kiki. The experiment is supposed to demonstrate a morphological correlation between language and reality.

This mushroom looks just like Mooloo!

By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2010-02-28 11:58:48 CST (-0500)

Picture reminds me of a cookie cutter.

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