When: 2019-02-06

Collection location: Bulverde, Texas, USA [Click for map]

29.7456°N 98.382°W 283m [Click for map]

Who: Jared McRae (redeye311)

No specimen available

In wooded areas with live oak growing from leaf litter, soil and grass.


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It’s a great puzzle…
By: Jared McRae (redeye311)
2019-02-09 08:58:03 PST (-0800)

I’ve been pondering those same questions myself for the last couple of years. There’s definitely a difference between this species and the L. nuda I find. This one is much more fragile as it ages and the gills become brittle flaking away when disturbed. I’ve cooked this species several times and each time unlike nuda it presents a lingering bitterness for an aftertaste. The fresh mushroom is mild in taste. (I haven’t come across anyone else that has experienced this bitterness as of yet)

The description of L. sordida in this website lines up very well with what I find:

As far as tarda vs sordida goes… I think they are different.. they’re described to be in different habitats. grasslands vs woodlands. I wonder if that difference in substrate with the same mushroom could affect morphology to such a degree that it would look so different …. i don’t really know.

Still wondering…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2019-02-08 06:53:21 PST (-0800)

if there’s support for both L. sordida and L. tarda to represent distinct taxa. And, if so, are there macro/micro differences?

I have found what I call Lepista tarda here in PA. Based upon the small/slender stature and more widely-spaced gills, I believe I can readily distinguish tarda from L. nuda. The mushrooms seen in this observation look sorta intermediate between tarda and nuda; more robust and with closer gill spacing than tarda, but smaller and lacking the typically thickened stipe base of nuda.

I think there’s another question. Are some of what is called sordida (like the ones seen here) distinct from L. nuda?

Have tarda, sordida, and nuda been subjected to molecular comparison?