When: 2010-09-26

Collection location: Thoiry, France [Click for map]

Who: Douglas Smith (douglas)

Specimen available

Found under oak, hornbeam, beech, some fir near by.

Small grey corts. Cap viscid, stipe non-viscid, gills grey, veil off-white, no reactions to KOH, taste mild, no odor.

micro-shot is of veil tissue at 1000x in KOH. The spores are sub-globose, rounded, warted, brown. The apr. size is 7 × 5 um.

Going through Funga Nordica, and Champions du Suisse tome 5, I see nothing that seems to match these. No idea what they are.

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By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-11-17 11:43:58 MST (-0700)

these need to be close to infractus, but I can’t find anything like it described without bitter taste either.
Sorry, I had forgotten about the earlier postings (Obs. 52239 with bluish tints in flesh and gills could be var. obscurocyaneus). I wonder if there also might be varieties without bitter taste…

No, no, I taste bitter…
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2010-11-17 08:30:24 MST (-0700)

No, I can taste bitter, I point it out in this one:


Which was clearly C. infractus, and bitter, like, ah, get it out of my mouth, bitter. No, these were different. In the field I passed them off as C. infractus, until I got home. Not bitter… I nibbled on them a bit to make sure. The caps are kinda different too, more a pure Phlegmacium with the thick smooth viscid cap surface, than C. infractus. Don’t know what to say about them.

By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-11-17 08:18:50 MST (-0700)

are you one of those who can’t sense bitter taste..?

Everything on this points towards Cortinarius infractus (I beleive there are several varieties, though).