Observation 63195: Helvella dryophila Vellinga & N.H. Nguyen

When: 2011-01-16

Collection location: Los Trancos Preserve, Palo Alto, California, USA [Click for map]

Who: Douglas Smith (douglas)

No specimen available

Found under live oak.

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Proposed Names

-52% (3)
Recognized by sight
96% (5)
Eye3 Eyes3
Recognized by sight: Under coast live oak
Used references: Helvella vespertina and Helvella dryophila, two new Helvella lacunosa look-alikes from western North America

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to each thing…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2014-03-26 10:28:51 CDT (-0500)

it’s own season.

NOW we can call this dryophila.

In 2011 it was premature.

Meets the criteria
By: P. Hill (phill)
2014-03-26 02:56:56 CDT (-0500)

On the West Coast of NA with a dark cap with regular set of grooves and nice contrast to the white stipe in Oak all looks like a great H. dryophila from the description in the paper.

(FYI This thread is now dated. The paper is out.)

totally agree!
By: else
2012-04-17 12:39:25 CDT (-0500)
Not even described?
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2012-04-17 12:30:35 CDT (-0500)

Well, even worse, a name in use that hasn’t even been described? That isn’t a good idea…

The Morchella is better at least, that is a paper that has been accepted for publication, and there are species descriptions there.

not published
By: else
2012-04-17 12:15:43 CDT (-0500)

indeed Doug, the species WILL BE DESCRIBED, at some point, but have not yet been described yet.
I don’t know why people would use such names! The same is true for the Morchella names that are now all over MO – they have not been published yet.

Wait -
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2012-04-17 12:05:07 CDT (-0500)

That is an abstract for a conference proceeding. I don’t that is a valid publication of a new species yet. The source needs to be a refereed journal, doesn’t it?

New Helvella paper
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2012-04-16 20:40:50 CDT (-0500)
Ah, what?
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2012-04-16 20:36:45 CDT (-0500)

What is this? What is the source here?

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