Observation 66916: Hypholoma capnoides (Fr.) P. Kumm.

When: 2011-05-03

Collection location: Lake Forest Park, Washington, USA [Click for map]

Who: Tim Sage (NMNR)

No specimen available

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By: Jeff Riedenauer (Tamsenite)
2011-05-06 05:47:49 CDT (-0400)

I don’t know what camera you have, but my Nikon has trouble picking up light shades of green and yellow also(i.e. gill color on tricholoma flavovirens). But it does capture shades of light and dark very well. Not sure about capnoides.

more fasciculare than capnoides…
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2011-05-05 23:02:00 CDT (-0400)

H. capnoides has paler gills in my experience. My initial reaction was H. fasciculare too. As pointed by Noah, these green shades are hard to be captured by the Nikon camera. Or, could be something in between.

By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2011-05-05 21:55:59 CDT (-0400)

this is a preemptive SHUT UP… okay you were right.

But one person’s bitter is another person’s… http://mushroomobserver.org/63699

H. capnoides
By: Tim Sage (NMNR)
2011-05-05 21:51:24 CDT (-0400)

It was not bitter, or at best VERY MILDLY bitter.

By: damon brunette (damonbrunette)
2011-05-05 20:37:46 CDT (-0400)

I am not high tech in the photo scene, never do much other than auto…. but i will every now and then, adjust colors afterward, to show the true color of what Ive seen. Is this wrong? Seems it would be. But is just as subjective as a description in a field guide with range of color.
Seems like the same type of emphasis is place in the ‘before’ settings to capture what the eye sees.

Thank you all….
By: Tim Sage (NMNR)
2011-05-05 20:34:38 CDT (-0400)

For your input! I am going to walk down there and chew one right now, be back in 30 minutes…

By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2011-05-05 20:22:12 CDT (-0400)

I just saw picture 1,2 and 4 I would say Hypholoma fasciculare. Picture three puts some doubt in my mind but not much…

My Nikon digital cameras can’t capture the green gills of H. fasciculare. I have tried every setting, played with white balance, saturation, etc. but it never gets it right.

By: caphillkid
2011-05-05 18:56:37 CDT (-0400)
They don’t look very yellowish to me, but I trust your judgment. I think it’s capnoides, but that’s just going by your pics. Cool find nonetheless. I have found a few cold weather species still fruiting as well. Our “spring” has been very cold and wet.

Oh and as for differentiating the two, I guess you go by taste. Bitter for fasciculare, tasteless for capnoides. I have only tasted the later. They are basically flavorless.

“as if” on Hypholoma sp.?
By: Tim Sage (NMNR)
2011-05-05 16:58:22 CDT (-0400)

You are THAT positive it is H. capnoides? I have trouble differentiating these two, what do you use in a case like this? Just gill color? Teach me!

The gills were quite yellow…..
By: Tim Sage (NMNR)
2011-05-05 16:24:46 CDT (-0400)

Not gray as in H. capnoides.

We know it is more than fungi sp., it is certainly Hypholoma sp.

I will go and taste it later today, or at least try to.

Fungi sp.
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2011-05-05 15:54:47 CDT (-0400)

Fungi sp. would be a safer guess. It does not have the green gills of H. fasciculare.

BTW, H. capnoides is edible, H. fasciculare poisonous. If you cannot tell them by sight, eat them. It is a good bioassay.

separating fasciculare from capnoides…
By: Britney Ramsey (Riverdweller)
2011-05-04 11:05:00 CDT (-0400)

by taste and spore size?

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