When: 2007-11-16

Collection location: Salt Point State Park, Sonoma Co., California, USA [Click for map]

Who: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)

No specimen available


1. in situ
2. close-up in situ (note veil remnants on cap margin)
3. detail of gills before spore-drop
1. in situ
2. close-up in situ (note veil remnants on cap margin)
3. detail of gills before spore-drop

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By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-04-11 21:32:36 MDT (-0600)

glad we are back to square one. i was gettin a bit dizzy there.
ping pong taxonomy.

Looking closer
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2012-04-10 18:11:50 MDT (-0600)

they look like Psathyrella. Look close up on the cap; slightly wrinkled and watery. The broken stipe, whitish stipe base… gill color, veil.

Young caps
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2012-04-10 16:37:29 MDT (-0600)

on these are too yellow and too pale for P. piluliformis.
I can definitely see why people are voting for it though. The veil is much the same, and when the spores hit the surface, they get brown like that Psathyrella.

If the last photo
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2012-02-02 10:34:18 MST (-0700)

is Psathyrella piluliformis, why can’t they all be the same? Looks to me like they started as brown-capped.

not mixed.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-02-02 08:59:44 MST (-0700)

none saved, hence no micro.

I doubt its mixed
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2012-02-01 21:37:45 MST (-0700)

That would be a difficult mistake to make.

What is the spore size on these?

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2012-02-01 17:31:38 MST (-0700)

The last photo is Psathyrella piluliformis.

Um, not sure about this one.
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2008-02-08 15:34:33 MST (-0700)

I found quite a bit of L. lacrymabunda (= P. velutina) this year, and I always found it in grassy irrigated areas. And the gills of L. lacrymabunda I always found to be chocolate brown to black, and the veil thick and fibrous, with fibrous projections from the cap margin.

The gills on these seem much lighter, and the fibrous veil thinner, and the margin fairly smooth, with veil fragments on the cap surface, above the margin. I might call these Hypholoma, although the cap surface does seem darker and more radially fibrous that other Hypholomas, but still.