When: 2011-08-31

Collection location: Warren Co., Virginia, USA [Click for map]

Who: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)

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Danny, you may be onto something…,
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2011-10-04 21:48:33 -03 (-0300)

Photos 1 & 2 and 3 & 4 are on different logs, and I agree that here especially they look like they could be different species. The ‘joie de vie’ was that the R. badius are out in force and that they evolve through these stages. I remember thinking that the missing link of the two forms on the second log was out of reach due to a combination of briars and sticks, which is not normally enough to discourage, but this time it was. I will split this into two observations and add photos from each log. That may give the the chance to propose an alternate name.

By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2011-10-04 05:24:57 -03 (-0300)

Considering there is a big bowl of hat soup (with a much more stomachable side of humble pie) in my future if my initial suspicions about this R. badius proposal: (http://mushroomobserver.org/75703) are incorrect, it behooves me to comment on what appears to be a discrepancy between your first two and last two images.

The latter two images do closely resemble Dan’s polypore in the previously linked observation, but I don’t see a clear chronological development from a “lighter form” to the characteristic black stipe base and varnished red pileal surface of R. badius. The younger specimens are growing almost from underneath the log, such that the stem juts out laterally and attaches eccentrally. The photos of the noticeably older specimens don’t show that same stipe orientation with respect to the substrate. We’re looking straight down at them from above and the stipes are not visible. From this perspective the stipes appear central, their point of attachment positioned directly beneath the cap, unlike the fruiting bodies in the latter two images. There’s also no moss in 1, 3 and 4 and visible moss in 2, but those are hairs that don’t really need splitting…

If you can confirm with absolute certainty that the exact same fruiting bodies were photographed in each image, I’ll take your word for it, but I still hesitate to go so far as to consider this incontrovertible evidence of R. badius having a pale, unpigmented stage.