Observation 81447: Lepiota subincarnata J.E. Lange

When: 2011-11-04

Collection location: Snow Peak, Lacomb, Linn Co., Oregon, USA [Click for map]

Who: Britney Ramsey (Riverdweller)

No specimen available

The only other time I’ve found Lepiota subincarnata, the cap was completely dry and look merely fibrous. This looks scaly, which fits better than fibrous (Redhead)
I’m guessing L. subincarnata over Lepiota josserandii (Bon & Boiffard Bull. trimest. Soc. mycol. Fr. 90: 289. 1974)

pileocystidia long, brownish, clamp connections present.
spores elliptic and thick walled.


Copyright © 2011 Britney
Copyright © 2011 Britney
Copyright © 2011 Britney
Copyright © 2011 Britney
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pileocystidia long, clamp connections present.
Copyright © 2011 Britney
spores elliptic and thick walled

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By: Britney Ramsey (Riverdweller)
2011-11-07 10:10:00 PST (-0800)

and thank you for posting the link! I followed that observation and it’s comments when it occurred, just forgot that second option provided by Michael . I’ll give that a go! At least I’ll know the calculation..

It’s very hard for me to place a ‘type’ on a spore, I don’t know that what I’m looking at is warty, smooth, or thin walled. So much to learn and most of it from experience, I’m getting a lesson in patience.

By: Matt Sherman (Shermanii)
2011-11-07 09:58:53 PST (-0800)

when you said touch-screen, I imagined it to be an extra feature with your scope in addition to the eyepiece/eyepieces.
You can still find the average quotient of the spores so you can determine the overall shape of the spore/s by measuring the spores from a photograph on your monitor with a ruler. Like Michael W wrote in the comments on the link I provided in my last comment.

thanks Matt
By: Britney Ramsey (Riverdweller)
2011-11-07 09:25:05 PST (-0800)

My microscope was given to me for Christmas by the in-laws. It’s a digital touch screen with no eye piece. It’s pretty neat, just missing some important features. The USB that connects it to a PC only allows the transfer of images from the scope to a “projector” , it doesn’t allow info into the scope. That means I’m stuck with no measure function.
I’m not giving up, there has to be a way to reasonably approximate this measurement. I can settle for just learning how vs. being accurate. For now. :)

Visual measurement…
By: Matt Sherman (Shermanii)
2011-11-07 08:59:19 PST (-0800)

I don’t know how to accurately measure spore size without an optical micrometer but I’m sure you could find one on Amscope’s website for fairly cheap… Isn’t that where you bought your microscope?

I was told about a way to visually measure spores by looking into an eyepiece and tracing what you see on a piece of paper that is level with the slide. It takes practice to do and I don’t know how accurate it is… I tried it and failed horribly.
I’ll post the link to my observation where it was explained to me here in a sec.

I’d suggest buying a new eyepiece with a micron measuring thingy in it.
Here it is…
Just read the comments and you see it.

I’m slow but I’m cute…
By: Britney Ramsey (Riverdweller)
2011-11-07 08:45:17 PST (-0800)

Anyone willing to help me figure out spore size with no visual measurement?
I looked for a download for my touch screen microscope, but found nothing. Seems silly that this thing can take video but doesn’t have a ‘measuring stick’.

Not sure what else to look at
By: Britney Ramsey (Riverdweller)
2011-11-06 15:01:46 PST (-0800)

No Mezlers. My scope doesn’t include a measurement function, it’s a digital from Costco. Honestly I’m horrible with math but totally willing to learn the calculations.
The only other likely candidate is…..
“Lepiota josserandii but more pinkish (Arora), Lepiota jossanderi has cap 2-5(7)cm across, pale, discoloring pink to wine-brown, finely scaly on ochraceous ground, gills white, edges sometimes wine-pink, stem 3-5cm x 0.5-0.9cm, lower part flesh-colored, habitat gardens and ruderal sites, spores 6-8 × 2-4 microns, (Moser)

L. subincarnata has smaller spores?

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