Observation 83673: Pholiotina smithii (Watling) Enderle

When: 2011-11-29

Collection location: McDowell Creek Falls County Park, Linn Co., Oregon, USA [Click for map]

Who: maynardjameskeenan

No specimen available

bluing noticed shortly after picking.


Basidia at 800X
Cap surface at 800x
Cheilocystidia at 800X
Cheilocystidia at 800X
Pleurocystidia at 800X
Pleurocystidia at 800X
spores at 800X
spores ay 800X

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thank you
By: maynardjameskeenan
2012-01-12 05:21:37 CST (+0800)

excellent explanation! thank you for clearing that up for me and thank you for putting in term that I would understand.

By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2012-01-12 05:06:02 CST (+0800)

This is a Pholiotina because it doesn’t have lecytiform cheilocystidia. True Conocybe all have only this type of cheilocystidia at the gill edge, which you can see here:


Pholiotina for some authors is only a section of Conocybe, for other sources it is a separate genus. The names here are both for the one species, they are synonyms. This was just published by Watling as a Conocybe, but then moved to Pholiotina by Enderle in 1999. Which you can see in the species names.

Why Pholiotina smithii?
By: maynardjameskeenan
2012-01-12 04:52:44 CST (+0800)

I have been thinking about why you (Alan) call them pholiotina smithii? I never knew that such a thing existed. Are you saying that pholiotina smithii is synonymous with conocybe smithii or that the mushroom would fit better into the genus pholiotina than conocybe? I am scratching my head and trying to figure this out but I am by no means an expert on mushrooms and any insight would be much appreciated, again thank you for all of your help.

What is the spore size?
By: maynardjameskeenan
2011-11-30 06:07:23 CST (+0800)

You know that I do not own a microscope, I did send a few specimens to the person that I sent the suspected gymnopilus aeruginosus. He is going to look at both under his scope and if I remember correctly he has an oil immersion lens so hopefully he can get some measurements. I am just waiting to hear back from him. I will keep everyone updated When I find out more about them.

What is the spore size?
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2011-11-30 06:01:15 CST (+0800)

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